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John Langley's avatar

Helen, you capture the whole shenanigans perfectly. Ian Davis is right, of course. Which makes the entire system even more ludicrous. Which, quite uncoincidentally, segues me into today's political, jolly jape. Enjoy 😊

Helen's avatar

Egan is 'my' MP. I didn't vote for him and I didn't choose the electoral system. MPs are regularly found to have been committing misdemeanors and crimes. Egan's husband used to work for the IDF, which is razing Gaza to the ground and has been murdering Palestinians for over two years solid now, after one day of an attack on Israel that was pretty much set up by Netanyahu. Egan supports this. I cannot feel sorry for him if a school decides he is unwelcome and I definitely feel no outrage at all about it. I feel way more sorry for the dead Palestinians he doesn't care about. So we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

John Langley's avatar

Thanks, Helen. This isn't about Egan. This is about mechanism.

You're saying: 'I disapprove of this person's politics, therefore activist groups should be able to veto their institutional access despite crushing electoral mandate.'

That mechanism - activist disruption threat overriding democratic choice - either works for everyone or it works for no one.

Once you establish that schools can exclude elected MPs based on staff political feelings, you've just handed that power to every activist group regardless of politics.

The question isn't whether YOU like Egan. The question is whether you want right-wing groups using this exact same mechanism against MPs YOU support.

Because they're watching. And learning.

Helen's avatar

I think we are watching and learning too.

I don't support any MPs. The whole system is rigged against accountability. I wrote 'I do not consent' on my ballot paper at the last general election.

I find Iain Davis's take on 'representative democracy' very enlightening. If we are all equal before the law, how can we 'elect' some people to be more powerful than us?

Whether they are coming from a so-called right or left wing position, it's anyway just the uniparty being steered by forces way beyond them.

Besides, I wouldn't want any sleazy MP anywhere near my children. Of course they are not all pedophiles. A friend of mine was an MP briefly and I trust her. But there's been way too many of that inclination for comfort.

I know my position may have flaws and contain seeming contradictions, and I participate in society as it is because I have little other choice. I think for many of us at the moment this is all a work in progress as we realise more and more about the depths of the deceptions and mind control we have been subject to.